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such little leverage in the talks of president obama. well, republicans should just get out of the way and let the democrats raise taxes as much as they want. and then let the president take responsibility for party of high taxes. now can i understand senator paul's thinking especially given the fact that the president has already announced ahead of his mano a mano meeting can john boehner that he won't concede an inch on tax cuts. this republican defeatism news broke of jim demint's departure from the senate yesterday. is he a tea party warrior and demint is a hero to part of the g.o.p.'s 2010 midterm route. now he is off to head off a think tank the heritage foundation. let's face it the g.o.p. needs new energy. it needs branding help. heck, we have a lot of issues resolve amongst ourselves before we even from a hope of rebuilding the movement to appeal to new generations of voters. of course, libertarians and social conservatives are probably never going abortion and gay marriage. they must find a way to agree on other critical issues. republican con sis tans on globalization, immigration r
to handle the fiscal cliff? 48% believe president obama and republicans will reach an agreement but 43% say they won't. meantime, president obama is giving a stern warning to republicans who may be trying to use the debt ceiling as leverage. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation, which by the way we have never done in our history until we did it last year, i will not play that game. >> we should say that the president and house speaker john boehner did speak by phone yesterday. that was the first time in a week. no one is saying what the conversation was about. shortly after that call treasury secretary tim geithner went on cnbc and said the white house is ready to go off the cliff. >> if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff in. >> absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest. it's only 2%. >> i want to bring in "usa today" b
if there is going to be a deal, what obama would be willing to give to the republicans on entitlements and medicare and social security. there is push back saying you better not be raising the eligibility age. he was pointedly asking if that was something he would consider. he refused to rule it out. he would not rule it out in the entry. i'm wondering how nervous do you think right now progressives should be about the idea of the medicare age going up in any deal. >> i guess i don't think progressives should be nervous at all. it's not clear he is going to agree as part of the deal because of the push back and all the analysis that is coming out that shows it doesn't save any money in the near term and shifts money from one pocket of the health care system to another. it might increase national health cost fist people 66 or 67 have to go into the regular system and get subsidized under obama care. the thing that no one talks about is typically when you talk about raising the eligibility age under simpson boelgz that proposed that, it doesn't phase in the higher age for like 30 or 40 years. if that
standards. and a new poll shows half of all republicans think the defunct group a.c.o.r.n. stole the election from president obama. >> that's an eye opener. >> i wonder where they ever got that idea? >> you just have to wait and see what happens. >>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. here is are the latest. republicans are at a stalemate with the white house for debt negotiations. republicans really only have two options now, bad and worse. "the new york times" is the latest outlet to report on senior republican leaders who are ready to strike a deal. they want to push off negotiations until the debt ceiling vote next year. president obama won't have it. the president is attacking the only leverage republicans have left. the president spoke to a group of ceos today and said that he will not negotiate if debt ceiling is going to be used as a hostage. >> i have to just tell you, that is a bad strategy for america, it is a bad strategy for your businesses, and it is not a game that i will play. so i want to send a very clear message to people here. we are
-down time in washington. president obama and the democrats, versus the house republicans and the so-called fiscal live. after weeks of negotiations, publicly, at least, talks have stalled, as the two sides have battled it out over tax hikes hs and entitlement reform. but what can be done about the nation's out-of-control spending. tim murphy is here now. chairman of the house oversight and investigations subcommittee for the energy and commerce committee. good to see you in person. welcome to new york. >> who do you think is going to blink? president obama says he wants the tax hikes to go up on the wealthy. >> we both better get together and come up with a solution. that's what the american family wants. all the other issues, we have to remember, it's what takes place, not at the 30,000 foot level, but at the kitchen table level. that's where the people are very concerned. will they have a job tomorrow? will their children have a job in the future? that means we have to deal with the deficit and the spending. we cannot continue to do this. the president's issue of unlimited power t
of the day going to show him and the republicans to be weaker and to have less leverage which giving obama more leverage on two things to your question. one is the debt ceiling extension issue which is the point that the president has made. he's not going to allow the republicans to hold this economy hostage. and another round of debt ceiling negotiations. i think he has to hold firm on that. the other thing i think the president has to hold firm on is getting stimulus in this plan. to jared's point, republicans have been making all the arguments if you cut too much you're going to hurt the economy. that's what the democrats said during the stimulus debate which jared was a leader on in 2009. it's a point i think they're still relevant on. >> let me just amplify those excellent points. one thing i have heard and i'm very happy about this is that the white house and these negotiations has been holding firm on the stimulus piece of this package. >> the 50 billion additional. >> there's 50 billion on infrastructure, an extension of unemployment. something like a payroll tax check boost there.
obama. john sununu is addition you know, he's not speaking for the republican party. ted nugent, he's very entertaining and downright racist in some of the things he says. >> if you like that kind of thing. >> i guarantee you, they're not going to be standing at the speaker's podium in 2016. the party moving beyond those characters. >> i hope you're right. mitt romney, whom you've just written about is seclusion in retail therapy. the man who told us i love cars, american automobiles who bought himself a foreign car audi, built in slovakia, owned byç a germany company. the capital of slovakia is quite aways away from detroit. is this is finally the real romney, the one he promised to give us and now we're seeing? >> but he took his audi to costco and loaded up with cheap merchandise. >> sorry sdmroop. >> so he is a man of the people driving his luxury suv to the discount chain. >> come o dana, he spends the whole campaign saying, i love america, implying the president doesn't. and the first thing he does is buy himself a german automobile. >> well, first he moved out to this wealt
't opened yet but has oscar buzz and is sloweded in controversy. republicans say the obama administration gave directors unprecedented and possibly inappropriate access to classified information. the white house denies this. here's barbara starr. >> you don't think she's a little young for the hard stuff? >> washington says she's a killer. >> reporter: it's a hollywood spy thriller with as much as oscar buzz as it has controversy. "zero dark 30," the story hunt for osama bin laden from the oscar winning powerhouse team of katherine bigelow and mark bowe recreates how it all happened, from the female cia analyst who finally figured out where he was hiding to the navy s.e.a.l.s who killed him. >> there are two narratives about the location of osama bin laden. >> reporter: the controversy? the obama administration has faced accusations it gave undeserved access to the film makers. in real life, everyone involved in the hunt for bin laden remains sworn to secrecy. but the film makers say they got firsthand accounts. they just won't say exactly how that happened. >> i think as a reporter you w
. governor howard dean joins me to discuss. and what republicans can't stop in obama's second term, progress. that's coming up. see the seam? more processed flakes look nothing like natural grains. you can't argue with nutrition you can see. great grains. search great grains and see for yourself. for multi grain flakes that are an excellent source of fiber try great grains banana nut crunch and cranberry almond crunch. well, if itmr. margin?margin. don't be modest, bob. you found a better way to pack a bowling ball. that was ups. and who called ups? you did, bob. i just asked a question. it takes a long time to pack a bowling ball. the last guy pitched more ball packers. but you... you consulted ups. you found a better way. that's logistics. that's margin. find out what else ups knows. i'll do that. you're on a roll. that's funny. i wasn't being funny, bob. i know. c'mon, michael! get in the game! [ male announcer ] don't have the hops for hoops with your buddies? lost your appetite for romance? and your mood is on its way down. you might not just be getting older. you might have a treatable
that the republicans seem to have a balanced plan. actually president obama is putting -- has been putting forward a balanced plan, spending and revenue increases for a long time. he's also done something very smart, which is put the republican tons defensive, unlike the beginning in the first term with the health care bill where he did not go around the country continuing to sell the idea as negotiations were going on. this time he has been doing that and he has put the republicans in a terrible spot. she's basically said, look, here are my revenue proposals. that's what i was all about. you guys were all about spending. tell me what you want to cut. go ahead. and they've, of course, had a little trouble with that. >> right. go ahead, make my day. john, "the washington post" today is reporting that investors are preparing to go off the cliff, shifting around assets. wealthy survival skills 101, so to speak. ceo says there must be a deal now. are republicans feeling this pressure from the super rich in the country? >> there's a real problem in that there's a real fear that what the republicans are
. >> they are taking us to the cliff. >> the momentum is with the president. >> republicans are totally over the barrel. >> did you say over? >> they should give in to obama on the tax rate? >> nothing is over until we decide it is! >> we didn't elect them to raise rate. >> not me! >> we don't have a revenue problem. >> i'm not going to take this. >> when are you going to fight? >> let's do it! >> how is that winning? that isn't winning. >> i don't think republicans will win. >> south carolina senator jim demint -- >> jim demint says he is resigning. >> his surprise announcement to step down. >> i think i'm in a more powerful position. >> are you kidding me? >> he doesn't have a law to his name. >> he has been a singular failure as a political strategist. >> i think i'm in a more powerful position. >> the disarray of the republican party. >> there is no progress. >> they don't know what they stand for. >> no progress. >> they don't know what to do. >> no progress. >> they have some real soul-searching to do. >> today the united states supreme court -- >> the supreme court used this afternoon -- >> said
on the run down, is president obama trying to destroy the republican party by using the budget prize? brit hume on that. >>> bernie goldberg on robert kennedy, jr. saying the right whing controlwing controls the n america. we're coming right back. and we can save you 10% on ground shipping over the ups store. look this isn't my first christmas. these deals all seem great at the time... but later... [ shirt ] merry christmas, everybody! not so much. ho ho ho! this isn't that kind of deal. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. >> bill: there's a loss of posturing going on between the white house and the republican party over the budget. here's how one journalist put it. >> when you talk about the feeling at the white house, there's a palpable difference now compared to the summer of 2011. they're so much congressyer right now whic at the white houe than they were a year and a half ago. >> miss cooper apparently saying the president is unwilling to compromise because he's feeling his oats, to use a cliche. joining us is brit hume. do you se
blocked the committee from withdrawing his nomination. >> now to washington where president obama is warning republicans not to use the fiscal cliff as a borrowing limit. both sides seem to be digging in their heels with no move to avoid the fiscal cliff. fiscal cliff negotiations have been at a stand still since monday when republicans proposed raising revenue by closing tax loopholes not by raising rates own the wealthy as the president has demanded. >> we're not insisting on rates out of spite but rather because we need to raise a certain amount of revenue. >> we can't keep borrowing mown and raising taxes and expect the problem to go away. >> with no solution in sight the white house budget is now ordering the pentagon and other an an jencies to finalize their plan to avoid massive spending cuts. >> secretary of state clinton says nato's decision missiles to turkey sends a clear message that tour ski is backed by its allies. the big concern remains an increasely desperate assad regime will turn to chemical weapons as rebel fighting rages on. the u.s. and its partners are looki
in big numbers, you end up with barack obama, two-term president. republicans tried to cross reality and reality won. the demographics of the country are changing. we're facing another set of realities. the federal government has taken in taxes that equals 18% of the overall economy. it's 17.8% to be exact. that's become something of a magic number in politics. you tell orrin hatch loves the 18%. if we keep all the bush tax cuts, we stick at that magic number. that means "taxes would still be high enough compared to recent history." across the political spectrum, consider warren buffett and higher taxes for the rich. he wrote "our government's goal should be to bring in 18.5% revenue. why? he doesn't say. those are levels attained over extended periods in the past. permit me a decent from the or kl of omaha. the average of our past revenue is not sufficient to sustain our future. in fact, it wasn't even enough to support our past. only three times in the past 50 years has the 18% been enough to balance the budget. the only recent balancing came during the clinton era when growth was
>>> right now on "andrea mitchell reports" line in the sand. president obama warns republicans not to create another debt ceiling crisis as a tactic in the budget talks. >> that is a bad strategy for america, it's a bad strategy for your businesses, and it is not a game that i will play. >> the speaker says the president's opening bid couldn't even pass the democratic led senate. boehner is ready for a sit down with the president. >> we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal and our outline, i think he's got an obligation to send one to the congress. and a plan that can pass both chambers of congress. >> a rare senate appearance, by former majority leader bob dole wasn't enough to win over republican support for a treaty promising equal rights for people with disabilities. we'll talk with the leading sponsor john kerry about what he called one of the sadsest days of his long senate career. >> this vote is to test whether the senate will stand up for those who cannot see or hear and whether senators can hear the truth and
: last week i said let obama have what he wants. republican member should vote present. maybe not even let him go off the cliff. let it go through and let barack obama have what he wants. people voted for it. we slide in recession and we say look, we had it their way. i think they are not carrying about the nation's future. right now, $136,000 household in debt. this is about getting re-elec re-elected. i want to say something quickly about the simpsons. it's dangerous to trivialize what is going on. simpson, if we go up the fiscal cliff simpsons are hit the hardest. the taxes go up 9,000%. writers of the simpson, the taxes will skyrocket. this isn't a joke. >> bob: you are right. but this is not going to happen. there is adjustment to social security. real cuts. >> eric: you know what -- >> bob: can i say something? >> eric: you add ornaments to add things. in obama added this little thing the other day. he said i don't want a debt ceiling or bound like it going for it. debt doesn't matter. >> bob: respond to the social security thing. >> eric: obama in october of 2008 before he was p
and as difficult as the situation was for president obama, those heavyweights within the republican party saw the writing on the wall, that it was going to be a very difficult race for even the best candidate, so they all held their fire for possibly 2016, so that's why you're seeing people talk about jeb bush and others. i left chris christie out of that mix as someone people were hoping would run, a strong candidate who would run in '12. that's why you're hearing the names come out now. jo ama >> amazing. newt gingrich, a man who knows a thing or two about the ladies, says hillary clinton would be close to unbeatable if she close to run. do you think we're looking at bush versus clinton in 2016? >> i think the picture on the democratic side this far out, there's a little more clarity to it -- there's a lot more clarity than the republican side. if hillary clinton were to run in 2016 there are obviously no guarantees in life or politics, but within the democratic party for the democratic nomination, she will be a front-runner like we have never seen before. and i know we sort of said that ab
. by the way, the same republicans who ran a campaign with president obama cutting $716 billion out of medicare, all the sudden want tremendous cuts in medicare. i think we'll get a dl. we have to. i think the president understands that. neil: i know we have to, but we've been this way before. here's my worry, that a bad deal could be worse than no deal. a bad deal, let's say there's cuts, and i don't envision many, your comment, though, withstanding, because i don't see the resolve for it because even slowing growth in a program is opposed b unions, the congressional black caucus, 101 democratic congressmen, when it comes toocial security, whether that should or shouldn't be part of the discussion is going to remain as a zeal to raise taxes over cutting spending. that's what worries me. >>well, you know, neil, i sit here in the financial markets, and so my concern all the time is protecting and preserving individuals and corporatis' wealth. i look at this, how does it affect the market, and to your point abt if this is a bad deal, where there's, you know, no spending cuts, increase in taxes, i
the white house out there, you know, publicly putting pressure on republicans by sending obama, for example, to michigan but gamt trying to negotiate behind the scenes with boehner. and it's a two-prong strategy that i think carries real risk. >> it's kind of negotiation 101. i mean, the most basic kind of negotiation, you know, don't show your hand if you don't have to. i'm wondering, matt, is part of this psychological, even real in terms of momentum, democrats feel they have the upper hand and so they don't need to do anything right now. >> can we just take a moment and recognize it's december 10th, december 11th and people are out on the road making politics about this and occasionally meeting and talking about maybe exchanging ideas? this is kind of a big deal, you know? in this same way that passing a buck -- we were told that for a long time. >> for a long time. if there was any kind of seriousness of purpose, and i'm not pointing out either party, you know, one over the other but neither is having a seriousness of purpose about passing budget, about sitting down and talking about th
, they are flying even if the actual negotiations are at a stand still. president obama says republicans, they're the ones that need to take the next step here. republicans say no way, ball's in your court, mr. president. >> we can probably solve this in about a week. it is not that tough. >> now we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. now, the revenues we're put on the table are going to come from, guess who, the rich. >> if we can get the leadership on the republican side to take that framework, take knowledge of that reality, then the numbers actually aren't that far apart. >> where are the specifics, where are the discussions? nothing is going on. >> passing middle income tax cut means the end of holding them hostage from tax cuts for the middle -- for the rich. >> i think the next 72 hours are critical. if he sits back and continues to play politics, that will give your answer of where we're going. this is an opportunity for this country to lead. this s this is an opportunity for the president to lead. >> debt ceiling, let's go to the white
approach. >> something a little strange. republican lawmakers dealing directly with president obama. you never hear them say we want to sit down with democratic lawmakers and hammer out a deal. why is that? >> at this point it appears that the democrats and president are on the same page. there is sort of this strain within republicans, especially between those in the house and the senate over the right approach. they do want to sit down and meet directly with the president and the last indications we got is that there's nothing going on in terms of negotiations while the white house says that the conversations continue, gop aides say saying that there's no phone calls, e-mailing, nothing between them. i think it's a little hard to see how you move this ball forward if the two sides are not negotiating face-to-face. we'll see if the ball can get moved. >> who needs twitter or facebook or a telephone call when you have television? because that's how they seem to be -- >> reporter: you can just walk down the street? >> yes. exactly. >> reporter: dan both general, reporting live from the wh
that president obama is in a strong position in this nation's fight for fairness. and republicans are on the losing end of this fight. now, new polls show 65% of americans believe the president does have a mandate to raise taxes on the wealthy. 62% say he's got a mandate to protect medicare. and 64% says he's got a mandate to protect social security. that is a winning hand. the president has it and he knows it. >> i'm pretty confident that republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high income individuals. >> and get this. 160 ceos from america's biggest companies are also now saying it's time to raise taxes on the rich. but, speaker john boehner is sticking to his talking points; at least publically. he's refusing to budge. >> the longer the white house slow walks this discussion, the pa closer we get to this year's fiscal close. >> boehner can blame the president all he wants. the reality is americans want to compromise. a new nbc wall street journal shows 65% want both sides to come together and make a deal. but that's not what's been h
's up to the republicans. >> let's talk about the negotiations themselves. president obama and the house speaker spoke for a short time yesterday. nobody knows exactly what they said. and president obama is going to talk to a family in virginia, sort of a deal to get -- why don't both sides go to camp david, lock themselves behind closed doors and come up with a deal? why a pr stunt, visiting voters when that's not going to get a deal done with republicans. >> i certainly would welcome that. i think most americans would. i think what the white house is doing -- and i think it's smart -- making sure that this conversation stays where it should be, with the middle class. the white house has been raising this point. they have this #my2k, explaining to republicans and the country, we can't afford for $2,000 more to hit our tax bill. it's important for the american people to stay engaged and the white house has to keep the american people engaged and this family will be speaking for a lot of people. it doesn't make any sense, even the polls show that the wealthy are willing to pay more taxes.
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, that fanned the flames of the post-obama tea party protest. but, of course, most of the actual republicans who were actually elected back then were elected because they ran ads like this. >> congressman brad ellsworth said he would protect our seniors. but when he got to washington, congressman ellsworth voted for the largest cuts in medicare history, over $500 billion. robin carnahan supports $500 billion in medicare cuts, ç hurting seniors most. rand paul doesn't support higher medicare deductibles for seniors. conway distracts with negative ads to hide his support for obama care, which cuts medicare by $500 billion. >> that was 2010. fast forward to this year's election and the same principle carries through. each side tried to convince voters that the other guy wanted to take the hatchet to medicare. >> the biggest, coldest power play of all in obama care came at the expense of the elderly. $716 billion, funneled out of medicare by president obama >> my plan's already extended medicare by nearly a decade. their plan ends medicare as we know it. >> on medicare, for current retirees, he's
and resolve these sort of issues. >> we know that barack obama speaks for democrats who speaks for republicans nowf? >> i think john boehner is the closest thing to a republican voice. he holds let's say the key to the lock. he is the most powerful republican in congress. my feeling is boehner wants to work something out. he has got to go home not only to his own constituents but every republicans in america and some in the house who aren't easy to pull along he he imant go to them and given up that tax bracket for the 2% and theying say what did you gte mr. baker? nothing yet. he can't do that with a straight face his own party will crucify him over that. >> over 50% that we fall off? >> i wouldn't have said that two weeks ago today. i think that's probably right and it's unnecessary. >> geraldo: hopefully he will mine sift the speak and he will have something more substantial in h 2 o. >> i hope so. >> great to see you geraldo. >> was it the lack of gun control or confession that caused nfl player to commit suicide. see what the newly legalized pot industry in washington state and soon in co
for president obama. not because of fraud that may have taken place. it was much more because the republican party completely, in this election cycle completely wrote off. >> you can help me out here? my mom is 93 years old. she is proud of voting. she doesn't drive anymore. she has no photo i.d. what's she going to do? >> one is in kansas if you are 65 years or older she can use expired. she can using that expired license from the 1960's if she has got it. if she is permanently disabled we have a special category for disabled voters who can't get to it a state office to get a free photo i.d. niger is right we provide a free photo i.d. to anyone who says i don't have a photo i.d. make sure no one else is fraudly claim to be multiplicity of part-time geraldo her her got to leave it there up nixz you will hear from the donald on whether he has any regress regagagagagagaga >> h are you feeling in the wake of the election? >> well, i feel like somebody won the election and did he a great job. and the republicans just didn't resonate with the people and lots of reasons and lots of different theor
barack obama, trying to win that will truly be the super bowl and the republican party today is incapable of competing at that level. >> that's a strong statement, but not entirely inaccurate. she will be a formidable candidate if the economy is improving and they get a budget deal. look, three times in a row, very rare, george bush, ronald reagan, last time it happened. nothing is given, but given the demog r demography, her appeal would be formidable. >> the republican party in four years, hopefully more competitive. governors getting their sfripz. marco rubbo and paul ryan, reframing the republican party. is it possible there could be a new republican party in four years? i certainly hope so. we'll see. >> i have been waiting for this all along. newt gingrich, saying hillary clinton formidable. my god. >> i believe hell has frozen over and cats and dogs now getting together. >> i want hillary to run. i'm excited. >> still ahead, on "starting point" we'll talk about my documentary that aired last night. what it means to be black in america. my new doc looked at racial identity. the cont
reform, obama care, which the republicans, let us remember, fought tooth and nail, and which spends most of its infamous 2,000 pages, throwing a whole bunch of different solutions at the actual underlying problem, that is driving the medicare cost problem, which is the cost of the rise in the growth of health care costs in general. that very controversial bill that the president and democrat spent just about every last scent of political capital on is designed to change the delivery of health care in all kinds of ways to slow the growth of spending on health care. almost none of these changes have been fully implemented yet. and that's what's going to happen in the next few years. they will be implemented. and rather than waiting until the affordable care act is fully implemented, waiting to see what's going to work in terms of cutting costs, republicans are trying to use this prefabricated deficit crisis to start a permanent undoing of the most popular program in america. and they're doing it a month after we had an election in which everyone agreed, medicare is awesome. joining us now
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and republican leaders at a stalemate, president obama is hitting the road to rally support for his plan, which would raise taxes for the wealthiest americans. he met yesterday with house speaker john boehner, their first face to face meeting in more than three weeks. today the president will visit a detroit engine factory to rally support from auto workers. the president's meeting with speaker boehner didn't yield a big breakthrough, but the men did manage to agree on one thing, and that is that they will keep their negotiations behind closed doors. the men released this identical statement, saying this afternoon the president and speaker boehner met at the white house to discuss efforts to resolve the fiscal cliff. we're not reading out details of the conversation, but the lines of communication remain open. cnn's dan lothian is at the white house this morning. dan, i guess the fact that the lines of communication are open is a good sign. >> reporter: that's right. it is a good sign. it was just about a week ago that we were reporting about how nothing was going on, not in public and not in p
to a tax revenue target well below the $1.6 trillion obama has demanded over the next decade. hello. open door anybody? that door on rates is clearly not entirely shut on the republican side nor on the president's side. "the post" lays out a scenario in which the house could adopt two competing bills, one extending the bush rates for everyone including the wealthy. the other extending the bush rates just for those making less than $250,000 a year. it gives republicans the opportunity to vote on both bills. both bills would then go to the senate. which would just pass the middle class tax cut bill or the house would end up passing what the senate already passed and that other bill just goes to die. so with it looking less and less likely washington will go over the cliff, that's gone. here are the real questions now. one, how big a deal will the parties make before the end of the year? two, have republicans stumbled into what could be political leverage at least in the short term? if all republicans do is extend the middle class tax cuts, punting the rest of this fight to february, when th
that president obama only wants the top two% to g two percent t. >> greta: do you anticipate republicans will vote for a rate increase if this should come to a vote? >> i don't believe they'll vote for a rate increase. what we'll vote for hopefully is to extend the current tax rates permanently and start working with president obama on true pro growth tax reform, but again, it sounds like treasury secretary geithner is happy to take the economy off the fiscal cliff, and again, if president obama wants to do that, he can do that, it sounds like that's exactly where he wants to go, what is kind of amazing, maybe republicans should take, you know, a victory lap from the fact that we've actually convinced democrats it's a good thing to maintain the bush tax cuts for at least 98% of the american population. i guess that's a good thing. i hope, i hope if president obama decides to increase taxes on the top two percent at a minimum he exempts business income. people or businesses that report their income through subchapter s, that would be a positive sign. maybe he can give some ground there. >
talked to several republicans around here yesterday who are upset that president obama and some of his staff haven't been to the hill to meet with them so i don't actually know the next step and a breakdown in communication. >> keith, do you buy that, that there's a breakdown in communication? you have a proposal here. you have the counter proposal if you will. we have gone through this before, especially in the arena of the bush tax cuts. is that just the shiny object for us to talk about, whether the president is a hands on communicator and who's invited to what table? is that a distraction of the reality of tough decisions to be made by both sides and you can pretend it's about a dinner invitation, a drink, whatever it takes. what do you think? >> yes. you know, john boehner has president obama's phone number and he has used it and the president has answered the call unlike the night when president obama called john boehner on election day and john boehner didn't answer his call. i think that you have to have both parties willing to engage with each other and talk to each other. loo
remember what republicans called their bill to repeal obama care? i do. it was an act to repeal the job killing health care law. now, the whole job killing thing has always been a bit of a talking point myth. a nonport dan study of the very similar health insurance mandate enacted six years in massachusetts showed, quote, no evidence of reduced employment as a result of health reform there. still, that argument, the whole job killing obama care thing, sent the owner of red lobster and a bunch of other very carb friendly restaurant chains on a hapless misadventure in corporate protest that culminated today in a public and embarrassing and informative way. back in october, company called darden restaurants announced they were putting more workers on part-time status in stead of full-time to see if they would be able to limit the cost of complying with the new health reform law. under the new law, big companies like darden have to either offer health insurance or pay a $2,000 fine for each full-time employee. over 30 employees who ends up using public subsidies to buy health care. you catc
in that room alone with obama. >> they would prefer certain members of the republican party would like to see these televised, these negotiations televised on c-span. john boehner has said i don't want any of the congressional leadership. it's me and you. >> seconds and thirds in there have cantor in there and mccarthy in there, some other people. >> i'm sure cantor would like to be in there. >> yes. >> michael steele, the other thing -- the other sort of pieces of leverage here, if they exist for the republican party, are continuing unemployment insurance. 2.1 million long-term unemployed americans will lose benefits at the end much the year. another million will lose benefits in the next three months if we do nothing. the republicans have sort of said we're going to hold this stuff. i'm not going to use the word hostage. we're going to keep this in our quiver until it's time. >> he used the word, what, last year. >> but it is another set of dollars that need to be spent in the conversation about spending, and i think a lot of republicans' frustration with the administration is that they hav
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